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wasker wrote on June 5, 2008, 2:33am

The question is: DO WE REALLY NEED a confirmation when deleting to recycle bin? The recycle bin is actually a safe net which serves "confirmational" purposes.

Turbo wrote on June 5, 2008, 4:30am

The new-style dialog could have an "Always ask" checkbox, like many other dialogs throughout Vista.

wasker wrote on June 5, 2008, 5:54am

Oh, check box would be a great addition!

wojtekmaj wrote on June 5, 2008, 5:46pm

yes/no/cancel while deleting? lol =P

tino wrote on June 5, 2008, 8:33pm

I don't like all the help texts in the dialogs. A simple help icon on every dialog would be much much better. Because you only ask that question for the first time. Less is more.

@wasker: You can disable that dialog in the properties for the recycle bin. And it is not a safe place. When its full, it will delete the oldest files in it.

eried wrote on June 7, 2008, 9:23am

@wasker: No, I always disable this confirmation dialog, BUT Windows should detect when files aren't going to Recycle bin. I mean for example, if you delete files in a USB pendrive, you can't recover them from a recycle bin, so Windows is really SHIFT+DELeting those files, and isn't asking for confirmation!

cosmin2007 wrote on June 7, 2008, 5:33pm

totally agreeing with Turbo and eried

I N C O N S I S T E N T W O R K , M I C R O S O F T !

Michael Mc wrote on June 8, 2008, 1:03am

Maybe it could have a "More information" thing, like in the copy progress window. That way, the details of the file(s) would only be displayed when you hit "More information"... I mean, if you've just right-clicked a file and hit delete, you probably don't need a reminder of what you're deleting (and if you do, you'd be able to click "More information".)

.Chris wrote on June 8, 2008, 5:51am

To those who say we dont need it. well, you'll be cring to them to put this in if you acdently loose some important work and wish there were a box like this!

mrmckeb wrote on June 8, 2008, 10:19am

Cancel and no are different?

.Chris wrote on June 9, 2008, 8:04am

Could be, tring to think of a way where that would work... multiple files maybe?

Michael Mc wrote on June 9, 2008, 5:07pm

@mrmckeb: Yeah, probably should've changed those in my second screenshot to "Delete" "Don't delete".

Sorry.

jepherberich wrote on June 12, 2008, 7:49pm

Except for the unnecessary "Cancel" button, yes, the second dialog does seem to be more in line with MS's own drafted UI guidelines. Also, because the description is short and direct, the buttons should really say "Delete" and "Do not delete" (per the UI/UX doc published, you only use "Yes" and "No" options when the explanation is composed of long text so the user can quickly get it over with. I know, the logic is weird, but at least try to stick to their official guidelines, eh?)

Sturmeh wrote on June 13, 2008, 8:56am

No vs. Cancel?

mrmckeb wrote on June 14, 2008, 8:39am

@Michael Mc

Hey it's ok, just wondering what you meant. I voted it up anyways!

Michael Mc wrote on June 15, 2008, 6:34pm

Added new image attachment.

Michael Mc wrote on June 15, 2008, 6:36pm

Updated image to show "Delete" and "Don't Delete" as per mrmckeb, jepherberich and Sturmeh's advice. :)

P.S. Yes, the Long thing is a joke. I'm sure the Microsoft UX team (if there is such a team) has no intentions of sending Long to the recycle bin. :p

(Also, is it just me or does 2.7 metres seem quite tall? It seemed OK at the time, lol.)

DeathSeeker wrote on June 16, 2008, 6:13pm

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511268.aspx#titleBars

"Dialog boxes don't have title bar icons. Title bar icons are used as a visual distinction between primary windows and secondary windows. "

Image needs another update.

Michael Mc wrote on June 27, 2008, 11:01pm

You're right... I'll get around to updating that. Thanks.

DeathSeeker wrote on June 28, 2008, 1:25pm

Here's another mockup. This one keeps the format and all the text the same but changes the Main Instruction text to the proper Vista format, adds an image frame to keep it consistent with Explorer, and fixes the background color.

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8919/recyclecopykj9.png

As for Delete/Don't delete. If the user is being asked a question you use labels to match the question(Do you want to? --- Yes/No). The guidelines specificly use the Recycle Bin as an example for this. See

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511453.aspx

Ensign Joe wrote on July 3, 2008, 9:36pm

@wasker: Well... you're right. In case you've accidentally moved a file to recycle bin ("deleted it") you can press Strg+Z quickly and it will re-appear. So the confirmation is not that neccessary. But I think they still should leave it.

Michael Mc wrote on September 3, 2008, 5:50pm

@DeathSeeker: Okay, that's a better mockup :p

I based my buttons on other buttons I've seen elsewhere in Vista. If you close Notepad with changes you'll get...

Do you want to save changes to Untitled?
[Save] [Don't Save] [Cancel]

That's a question, answered with more than just yes/no/cancel. As jepherberich says above, "the buttons should really say "Delete" and "Do not delete" (per the UI/UX doc published, you only use "Yes" and "No" options when the explanation is composed of long text". Perhaps it should be [Cancel] instead of [Don't delete]

UPDATED IMAGE to take into account all suggestions made thus far. Keep em coming :)

litemininyuszika wrote on January 12, 2009, 12:35pm

Minimize and maximize buttons are really needed there? :)

hydrogen wrote on January 28, 2009, 2:45am

IMO, "Cancel" is always ambiguous. To Cancel closing a document save change, the button could say "Return to Document". To Cancel deletion of a file, "Don't Delete" would be good.