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4 +20/-16 votes

Display Start Menu & Taskbar text the same was as window titles

Submitted by Mugwump00 on September 18, 2008 to Aesthetics

Vista windows title text displays with a hazed background effect which enables it to be legible even when windows borders are completely (aero) clear and a window is layered over white backgrounds.

The Taskbar and Start Menu fonts are white - they are visible because the SM/Taskbar is permanently tinted black.

This at once gives the Vista UI a "designed by 2 committees" look, and prevents alternative themes from making the Taskbar lighter/more transparent without making the Start Menu and minimized title text unreadable on light backgrounds (e.g. when Notepad is open maximized).

I understand Windows 7 will be more flexible and open to theme developers.

Either use the same text-rendering technique across the UI, or present theme-developers the ability to utilize the "text haze" effect for their Start Menu & Taskbar.

Give us the freedom to have our SM/TB coloured anyway, even transparently.

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Discussion (11 comments)

Mugwump00 wrote on September 18, 2008, 3:58pm

Changed problem description.

Mugwump00 wrote on September 18, 2008, 3:59pm

Changed solution description.

icecone wrote on September 18, 2008, 4:50pm

+1
I love the way it is now, but another option will be nice

.Chris wrote on September 18, 2008, 7:46pm

who the hell demoted this?

anyway +1 very good idea. we need change in windows. not the same old boring stuff

Grey_Podder wrote on September 19, 2008, 12:20am

Another +1. This made me remember that I had to change my first desktop background choice because of readability in the start menu.

jamesrising wrote on September 19, 2008, 6:36am

@.Chris: I know who demoted this: bearluke.

.Chris wrote on September 19, 2008, 7:54am

Well everyone knows that. But who else? Bearlukes friends?

Mugwump00 wrote on September 19, 2008, 6:04pm

I am new here, and don't know, nor possibly want to know what's going on with the "personalities" here, but wouldn't it be better if who promoted or demoted an article could be shown?

It seems speculative to say who otherwise. I really only wanted to express my concern at how something that was rigid in it's design (the Vista UI) fails to work if people try to tweak it, and how if W7 is going to be more tweakable, that could lead to a poor experience unless this text-background issue is addressed.

More than topping some chart, I was hoping this site could generate input that could possibly be valued by MS (I know it is 100% independent). Is this now likely?

Grey_Podder wrote on September 19, 2008, 6:30pm

Mugwump00,
Someone once suggested showing how each user voted, but think of the problems that would cause. I guarantee that some users would use it as an opportunity to "get back" at anyone who voted them down.

.Chris wrote on September 19, 2008, 8:01pm

Its mostly an attatude problem with some

blueskynis wrote on September 25, 2008, 1:46am

There are so many who demoted this...

Mugwump00 wrote on January 1, 2009, 1:31pm

This text-rendering discrepency hasn't altered in Windows 7, however the removal of text from the taskbar and it's greater transluceny (in default mode) is very pleasing to me!

thanks for those that supported this!

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